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Trivia about MM8 and HoMM, courtesy of Sid Meiers
10/04/2021, 17:26:22

    The Elf writes:

    Yes, you read that correctly. I'm reading Sid Meiers' "Memoir!" which contains a fascinating factoid that is of interest to us. It seems that one of Meiers' games had a less than stellar public reception: his favorite project of all, a little gem called "C.P.U. Bach." It was apparently a method of "creating" Bach-ish fugues on your computer. The problem as Sid saw it, was that most PC's of the day had absolutely atrocious sound cards, which he felt was unworthy of Bach. (I'd have to agree there.) So he got together with our old pal Trip Hawkins, who had invented (or hired a hardware designer to invent) a computer with superb sound, that he called The 3DO. As he explained it to Sid, it was the next in the natural line of progression: Audio, Video, ThreeD-o. The 3DO Company was actually created to market these wondrous devices. Apparently they didn't sell any better than Sid's ill-fated music game. So they switched to buying out struggling game studios. (Sigh.)




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Gah! I mean Sid MEIER
10/04/2021, 20:03:27

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Fascinating!
10/05/2021, 00:29:20

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A very interesting tidbit of information
10/05/2021, 09:54:19

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Well, 3DO couldn't market anything...
10/09/2021, 11:23:58

    Ramillies writes:

    Upon being offered what effectively was one of the first MMORPG's ever, they just said "This won't sell much. We don't care."

    No wonder they weren't able to sell these devices effectively...

    (By the way, on the occasion of Bach's birthday, Google made a little app that would harmonize a given melody in Bach style . I think it's still available somewhere.)





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If I can find them, there were a number of quotes illustrating the art of getting things wrong.
10/09/2021, 15:59:52

    Peter2 writes:

    Some of the ones I remember:–

    Quote by Tchaikovsky: "I've just been playing through some of the music of that scoundrel Brahms. What a giftless bastard . . ."

    Quote by Decca (I think) executive on hearing the demo disc of a group calling themselves The Beatles: "We don't like their sound. Guitar groups are on the way out."

    Quote by a senior army officer standing on a parapet overlooking the Battle of Spotsylvania: "Don't worry, they couldn't hit a barn door at this dist. . ."





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— I can supply a few more.
10/09/2021, 18:12:16

    Ramillies writes:

    Those are coming from a Czech book, so they are a translation of a translation at best:

    "It is well proven that it is absolutely impossible for a man to rise up into the air, or at least to stay afloat in it." (a French academic, 1782, one year before the first manned balloon flight)

    "Introduction of railroads would be harmful to public health, because any movement faster than 25 mph would invariably cause concussions and madness in the passengers, and vertigo in the public by the railroad. If it would be introduced, it would be necessary to hide it in between two fences, as high as the engine and the cars." (British Royal Medicine Council (most probably a bad translation), 1837)

    "I propose the patent office to be closed down. Everything has already been invented and nothing new can ever be found." (the director of the patent office in Washington, 1832)

    And finally: "The President of the Academy is moreover obliged to contribute, with all of his powers, to extermination of all werewolves, gnomes, dragons, lake-maids and will-o-wisps. To effectively convince the common people for this noble pursuit, he shall offer the reward of six tolars* for finding any and all of those monsters, be it found in pits, caves, holes or lakes." (From the founding documents of Academy of Sciences in Berlin, 1700 (!!) )

    (By the way, Brahms was effectively trying to "bring back some order to music" when people like Wagner, Schönberg, Debussy, etc. were pushing Romantism to its limits or working to replace it with something else. So for many people Brahms was the one who was going backwards, and he was a good target for various "hates".

    For instance, when Brahms published his 2nd piano concerto, where the piano must oftentimes be heard over a full orchestra playing quite loudly, a lot of people joked that "oh, Brahms wrote that for himself. No wonder he can hit the piano so hard with his 100 kg of weight" (which was really non-standard in those times).)





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*: Forgot to say that...
10/09/2021, 18:19:23

    Ramillies writes:

    a "tolar" was a kind of a coin used in those times. It may be interesting that the name of this coin originates from the name Joachimstal, which is the German name for a Czech town today called Jáchymov. During 1500s, silver was mined in large quantities around that town, and the coins made of that silver quickly became popular. They were called "Joachimstaler Münze" (which just means "coins from Joachimstal"), which quickly got shortened just to the "taler", and then mangled to "tolar".

    By the way, it's not by chance that it looks very similar to the word "dollar". "Tolar" made it into Netherlands and the Dutch colonists in America used it as well, mangling the word a bit more (at least if I recall it correctly). So that's where America got its dollar.





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Thank you – that's fascinating.
10/10/2021, 04:44:23

    Peter2 writes:

    How words are derived has always interested me.




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Another memory has just surfaced in my mind –
10/10/2021, 04:54:48

    Peter2 writes:

    Wasn't there an old coin common around Southern Germany in the 1500's called the thaler? Might this not have been derived from the same name?




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Yes, there was, and in fact it was just the same coin.
10/10/2021, 06:16:07

    Ramillies writes:

    It was so popular that people called it by slightly different names in different regions. Thaler, tolar, daler, dollar etc. Often it had to do with what dialect of German was spoken at that place, since the name originates from a normal German word "Joachimst(h)aler".




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That's probably why . . .
10/11/2021, 11:42:06

    The Elf writes:

    . . .Ubisoft eventually bought them out.




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