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Does Vampiric works on Bows? How does Vampiric works with Dualwield?
05/13/2010, 04:00:45

    StarSabre writes:

    I want to start a 5 necromancers walkthrough. Since there would be no cleric, i expect to use the vampiric weapon as my main source of healing until i get souldrinker of course. Therefore, i have several white spots about that i would like to fill:

    1) Does vampiric works on bows, and will it give me hp back when arrow hits?
    2) If i have a vampiric dagger, should i take it in my left or right hand?
    3) Will dagger in either hand affect all the damage or just a part of it?
    4) Do i have to have two daggers to get full effect of lifesteal or will having both weapons with lifesteal give me double lifesteal?





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Answers.
05/13/2010, 05:49:10

    Peter2 writes:

    Does vampiric works on bows, and will it give me hp back when arrow hits? Yes

    If i have a vampiric dagger, should i take it in my left or right hand? TTBOMK, it doesn't matter.

    Will dagger in either hand affect all the damage or just a part of it? Not quite sure what you mean here, but TTBOMK the hit points a character gains from doing damage with a vampiric weapon only accrue from the damage done by that weapon. He/she won't derive any hit point benefit from damage done by a non-vampiric weapon in the other hand. Does that answer your question?

    Do i have to have two daggers to get full effect of lifesteal or will having both weapons with lifesteal give me double lifesteal? See immediately above. As I understand it, if a character wields two vampiric weapons, he/she will gain hit points from damage done by either one, but that's all. He/she won't get any doubled benefits.





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Thanks and clarifications
05/14/2010, 02:26:43

    Starsabre writes:

    Yes i see, so the vampiric is kinda useless then?

    First, i have to have both daggers with vampiric (nowhere to put swift or +dmg unless i find an ultra rare vampiric+swift combined enchancement) to have the most possible lifesteal

    Second, even after that i am still lifestealing a very little amount because the further into the game the more damage in attack comes from modifiers like heroism or might breakpoints or skill modifiers.

    Or does skill count?

    I mean, if i have a dagger with 2d3+6 (8-12 dmg) and i have my total damage from attack equal to 17-21 because of other effects, will i gain 8-12 hitpoints when i hit or 17-21?

    From what it seems when i actually try it, its even less than both those values.... Do i only gain 1/3 of the life back, like vampire's first spell?





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vampiric
05/14/2010, 09:17:56

    Naal writes:

    I don't recall any weapons that get both swift and vampiric on them. You can get weapons with increased weapons speed and vampiric. By the time you'll find these weapons you should have soul drinker and the vampiric weapons are kind of useless. I'd personally rather have weapons with some kind of elemental damage or other good mods.

    Vampire weapons are suppose to heal about 20% of the damage inflicted if I remember correctly. Even with LV 60 Light buffing Magic duel wielding Necros only get up to about 100 damage per hit. I wouldn't depend on the vampire mod on weapons. For a magic heavy party I would just play conservative till you can get at least one member Soul drinker. At high levels one good Soul Drinker can almost heal the entire party.





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The weapon with both vampiric and swift is ...
05/14/2010, 20:03:09

    Peter2 writes:

    ... "of Darkness". It's most useful if you work with a party that does the vast majority of its combat in melée. Most of the good bows don't have this property, so if you do a significant amount of combat at range, you won't derive the benefit. And of course, you don't have any spell apart from Souldrinker and the specialist Vampire spell Lifedrain that has this property.




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Vampiric
05/14/2010, 22:18:44

    Naal writes:

    Dark magic has vampiric weapon which you can get at basic skill level.




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Well it proved to be so... unfortunately, i thought vampiric weapons necros will be fun...
05/17/2010, 17:26:38

    Starsabre writes:

    By the time they could stand up and fight, my necromancers, they would already have enough mana to spark up everything or just destroy it with toxic clouds or lightnings. And still they hardly ever got back health lost in a real fight... Because its so random and the character who got hit is recovering meaning he will drain even less...




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That's not how it works.
06/02/2010, 04:42:17

    GrayFace writes:

    Here's the explanation:
    Vampiric weapons add 1/5 of whole physical damage done to monster (by both weapons, including Heroism and skills bonuses). If you have 2 vampiric weapons, they both work. You don't get HP when you kill a monster, only non-lethal strikes add you HP.
    In MM8 you get min(damage/5, LeftHP/5) where LeftHP is amount of HP monster has after you hit him.




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