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Item Questions -- MM6 and 7
09/30/2019, 10:03:15

    Eric B writes:

    OK, so recently I had come across a site with a list of items from Might & Magic VI and VII; as I poked through it, I came across a few items that I don't recall ever seeing during my numerous playthroughs of the game. One, by poking around here, I was able to find -- the sewer key. (Nice reference to MM6 on that, by the way!)

    Also, by poking around, I found some info on the Vampire's Cape; good explanations on both items, as well as the teeth from MM6, were found here by doing a bit of digging.

    But as for the others? Unable to find anything on:
    *Pouch of bat guano (MM6)
    *Fire Amulet (MM6)
    *Thigh Bone (MM7)
    *Flower (Rose) (MM7)
    *Lich Jar Placeholder (Message scroll) (MM7)

    Were these merely items put in just to test something, or did NWC actually have plans for these, and decide to omit them at some point, for whatever reason?

    Thanks for any insight on these (Or any other items not listed here!)





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I'm not absolutely sure, but quite possibly . . .
09/30/2019, 15:07:49

    Peter2 writes:

    . . . these were items used during the development of the game and not removed from the data files when the game was marketed.

    About 15 years ago, I read through the data files (using a hex editor, I think), and I found all sorts of stuff in there. The only one that is still partially in my memory was a named sword (although I can't remember the name) which I thought might be quite tasty. However, when I activated it in a throw-away game, I was disappointed to find that it was a very ordinary +2 sword. I suspect that somebody else did as I did and just listed what he/she found, and the lists you found were the result.





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Sadly, I have no idea about those. However, I would add one item of my own to the list...
10/02/2019, 16:32:07

    Ramillies writes:

    When I was translating MM6 into my native language of Czech, I naturally had to translate all the message scrolls. There is one scroll that describes how the Baa people in New Sorpigal tried to use a "Curse of Endless Vermin" on the town, but how the spell backfired and the endless vermin infested their own temple instead, which then had to be hastily abandoned.

    It's quite fun to read, so I scoured the Abandoned Temple for this scroll. In the process, I found some rooms that I had never known about before, but all the searching was in vain.

    So I would add a question: do any of you remember finding such a message scroll in the temple?





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Which rooms were those, please?
10/03/2019, 05:10:17

    Peter2 writes:

    Have I been missing something for all these years?




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Endless Vermin
10/04/2019, 07:40:45

    Eric B writes:

    I don't recall that scroll, but I do remember a few people around New Sorpigal talking about the Endless Vermin spell backfiring on Baa, causing them to move out "Righty-o quick."

    Also, I'm not aware of any "Hidden rooms" in the Abandoned Temple either.





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Perhaps the "hidden rooms". . .
10/04/2019, 13:40:30

    The Elf writes:

    . . .are the rather obscure ones: the one with all those hanging cages with rather junky amulets in them, the one you can find if you continue on past both killing the Queen Spider and finding the cobra eggs, and the one that has the pedestal that takes you back to the entry, not just to the junction of the route to find the little girl. If you just barrel through the three quests, you also might miss the side room with all the spiders and an entrance to yet another door, said side room being opposite the hall with the room with the "sacred" (rather profane!) urn.

    Just sayin',
    Elf





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Yes, exactly those.
10/04/2019, 17:28:52

    Ramillies writes:

    I meant the one with the cages, primarily. There were other parts of the Temple that I'd never found before that, but they weren't really interesting (just another set of corridors and halls dug in earth, of course full of spiders & co.). I can't recall which ones, but they definitely weren't anything that you would call a room, I think .

    Also I'm sure that you (Peter2) are much more thorough explorer than me, so I really don't think my findings would take you by surprise.

    (And I haven't ever noticed any profane urn in there! I'll need to look closer when I go in the next time )





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A-a-argh! Senior Moment again
10/04/2019, 18:13:27

    The Elf writes:

    I meant candelabra, not an urn, of course. (I knew it was for The Temple of Baa, so decided it must have been an urn--and a profane one, at that.)
    See what all you youngsters have to look forward to?




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