As far as Papa Elf and I are concerned, Dungeon Steam III and IV are duds. DS4, available on Steam, also suffers from my pet peeve( shared by Legend of Grimrock 2): at a certain point in both these games, you cannot progress unless you pass a certain obstacle which requires lightning-fast reflexes (which I've never in my life possessed--even less so in my advanced age) to get past. There is no work-around short of getting Baby Elf (who dislikes RPG's--can she be a changeling?) to play for me until the obstacle is passed. Bad cess to you, o designers for RPG's only playable by people under 60!
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