New Post Find ReloadOverview Newest    Admin
•
THREAD NAVIGATION:  
 View All             Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

[FIX] Long wait times for inventory/map/menu screen etc
07/22/2008, 08:49:03

    frognik writes:

    Hey guys I stumbled upon this site trying to find a fix for the long wait times however I see you guys don't have a fix for it.

    Lucky for you I'm a programmer and specialize in debugging

    The problem is related to one of the procedures in cshell.dll
    The procedure is actually quite useless so basically I made it so it skips it.

    Here is the cshell.dll that I've patched:
    http://rapidshare.com/files/131595167/cshell.rar.html
    Replace the cshell.dll in your \Might and Magic IX\data\ directory.





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Hey folks! This looks useful!
07/22/2008, 08:59:44

    Peter2 writes:

    Many thanks Frognik. Not that I understand any part of it ...




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

I got it and it works!
07/24/2008, 07:59:02

    Zedd writes:

    Fine job Frognik!




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

it works !!
07/25/2008, 13:29:53

    Daws writes:

    I'm impressed. I'm using dxtweaker and menu delay is about 2-3 second, but game crashes often so it's make me mad.
    Your fix works perfectly!! No menu delay!! You are my god, thanks!!




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

No more annoying coffeebreaks! This works beautifully - thanks mate!
07/25/2008, 14:09:49

    Shero writes:





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Wondeful! With your permission...
07/26/2008, 20:42:21

    Bones writes:

    ...I'd like to include this in any future patch we might release -- if indeed that ever comes to pass.




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

permission granted, however
07/26/2008, 21:33:15

    frognik writes:

    I did notice saving your game takes longer (and autosave when moving from area to area)with this patch but I'm sure people would rather have that than the long constant wait times.

    If I can find some time I'll see if I can patch it better.





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Very nice. Thank you.
07/27/2008, 08:48:33

    Bones writes:





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

final fix
07/31/2008, 08:24:37

    frognik writes:

    I took a better look at what was happening in cshell.dll and found out that it uses DirectX 7 to capture images like those in the load/save screen. DirectX 9 or above works differently and has to "emulate" DirectX 7 functions, this is why its slow. Unfortunately there is no easy fix for this.

    Here's my final cshell.dll (load/save time has been fixed):
    http://rapidshare.com/files/133809664/cshell.rar.html

    Basically anything to do with capturing images has been removed and hence you will only see a black image in the load/save screen and simmilar. This is graphical only and wont ruin gameplay.





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Nicely done, and great explanation.
07/31/2008, 23:25:16

    Bones writes:





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

A couple of questions....
07/31/2008, 23:30:02

    Bones writes:

    IIRC, MM9 has a screenshot function. Will this still work? I'm guessing not.

    Also, not everyone experiences this problem. Is that because this problem only manifests with certain video drivers?





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

A couple of answers....
08/06/2008, 06:53:41

    frognik writes:

    The ss function wouldn't work because it doesnt resize images.
    The slowness problem exists for everyone however native directx 7 gfx cards and their drivers will run faster than native directx 9/10 gfx cards emulating directx 7.

    I'd be interested to know which DX9 and DX10 gfx cards run this game without problems and which drivers are being used.





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

I use
08/06/2008, 14:13:47

    kkc writes:

    An old GeForce3 card.
    The last driver that works without delay is 30.82
    I run with 81.98 normally and switch to 30.82 for MM9.
    With this I almost never crash, have no delays or video anomalies, and can even Alt-Tab between windows to run other applications.




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

I run the game on a ...
08/06/2008, 18:05:06

    Peter2 writes:

    ... vintage (year 2002, I think) computer which has a Win98 partition. I have no problems with it.




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

GeForce 6600 GT (NVidea) DX9 WinXP
08/08/2008, 05:37:45

    Shero writes:

    the *only* problem I encounter is in the save window (both main menu and Lloyd's Beacon screens).

    And again, it's a really minor problem.





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

This is the completed data on my Graphics system per dxdiag
08/20/2008, 14:27:31

    Zedd writes:

    ideo Card: NVIDEA GeForce FX 5200
    Chip Type: GeForce FX5200
    DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
    Approx Toal Memory: 128MB
    Monitor: Alphascan 712

    Main Driver: nv4_dsp.dll
    Version: 6.14.0010.9371 (English)
    Date: 10/22/1006 12:22:30
    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    VDD: n/a
    DDI Version 9(or higher)

    Actually running DirectX 9.0c

    Hope this helps





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Sorry fumble fingers again, that driver date should be 2006 not 1006 obviously
08/20/2008, 14:29:22

    Zedd writes:





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

There *is* a visul quirk -
07/27/2008, 01:59:13

    Shero writes:

    - and while it doesn't get in the way of the game at all, I thought it should get at least an honourable-mention

    In the 'load game' window, where a screenshot of the saved game you want to load is displayed, there is now a duplicate shot of the entire load-game window, with the screenshot of your actual saved game in the upper rt corner behind a message window - which of course is too small to actually read. Games saved in this window prior to installing the patch, are not affected.

    I could email my sceenshot, but I'm guessing you'll have it as well, and just haven't noticed. Again - it makes *no difference* to gameplay, and I'm over the moon with the new 'no waiting' feature so good job! Quirk on!





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

oh yuh and LB
07/27/2008, 07:19:12

    Shero writes:

    All the screenshots used to 'set' the beacon after installing the patch turn into solid colours - again, no big deal - I can tell at a glance that the all green square will rock up to the dragon and the all blue will lob into Arslegard. The proggie is probably selecting a dominant colour, is all.

    The word 'Visual' in the previous topic lost an 'a'. Bloody Imps.





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

It works, but now I've save delay
07/28/2008, 07:14:57

    Daws writes:

    Your modification works, but now I have a save problem. When I press F5(quick) or save from menu or when a new map is loading I've about 30 sec saving delay ;( Anyone help? It's DX9 problem. When I run game with dxtweaker it works fine but game crashes very often ;(




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

my quicksave remains around 5secs [WinXP] - but some minor graphics are stuffed
07/28/2008, 17:23:52

    Shero writes:





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Mind if I host the file as well?
08/27/2008, 11:40:13

    Mark writes:

    I keep a basic page up on running the MM games in Vista. Are you ok with my hosting the file on my site as well? (In case something happens to the rapidshare version.) If you have a site you want me to point at I would be happy to.


    Related link: MM games in Vista

Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Hey! I'm happy to know you keep the info updated. Thanks
08/27/2008, 17:19:41

    Chlala writes:





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Unfortunately this didn't work for me.
10/21/2008, 03:09:11

    Queen Hera writes:

    I copied the http://rapidshare.com/files/131595167/cshell.rar.html file into my Might and Magic IX\data\ directory then deleted the other one. Then when I started MM9 I got "Error copying file cshell.dll" & game doesn't start. I tried renaming your cshell.rar to cshell.dll but that didn't work either.
    ......but thanks anyway.




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Now it does!!!!!
10/21/2008, 06:26:03

    Queen Hera writes:

    I downloaded your patch which had a .dll extension & not .rar extension from another site, so thanks frognik for making this patch.




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

I got "banned" from this board...
10/21/2008, 06:28:14

    Queen Hera writes:

    when I put in where I downloaded patch from.




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Heart-felt apologies....
10/21/2008, 09:17:15

    Bones writes:

    As you've discovered, we've placed filters to prevent the posting of certain character combinations. Spammers are running scripts that would overrun our Taverns if we didn't. Included are several domain extensions.

    FYI, it's always safe to post a URL in the Link URL field at the bottom of the Reply screen. If you get banned again you can email me and I'll help straighten it out.





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

thanks frognik
08/15/2009, 17:23:29

    KHALID writes:

    thanks for the dll , its work




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Menu Lag
10/16/2009, 02:20:23

    Munk writes:

    Finally fixed, thanks man, now I can play the game!




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

cshare.dll
02/03/2010, 15:40:35

    andi writes:

    hi, unfortunately this filehoster doesn't let me download the file. could you please upload it to another one or email me the file? i'm really losing my nerves because of these load times.




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Try now. I just did and it worked. If not let me know I'll put it up somewhere else.
02/03/2010, 16:30:09

    Chlala writes:





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

i have tried it several time since my last post, but...
02/07/2010, 04:46:36

    andi writes:

    ...unfortunately the site keeps on telling me that there are no donwload-slots available for non-members every time i try it. i don't know if that's a problem only i have, but it would be nice if you uploaded it somewhere else




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

now i got it
02/07/2010, 04:49:02

    andi writes:

    must have been to impatient^^




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

lol well glad it worked out
02/07/2010, 22:02:51

    Chlala writes:





Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Fix - Slow Menus
05/12/2010, 04:34:05

    tobascosteve writes:

    Thanks for the fix. Works great now!




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

I need it
02/06/2013, 08:46:54

    Oook writes:

    Please, could someone upload it again?




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Several folks made improvements to cshell....
02/06/2013, 14:31:41

    Bones writes:

    The 'final' version is at the link below.


    Related link: Mok's cshell

Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Thank you
02/06/2013, 20:59:12

    Oook writes:

    Awesome fix! it should be included in the patch




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Thanks
07/01/2016, 21:22:15

    Lauris writes:

    Thank you, still playing the good old classics




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Link not working anymore
09/06/2016, 13:32:43

    MM fan writes:

    Hi, any chance you could uploade the file again? Can't access your link.




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Here's the sory....
09/07/2016, 08:32:15

    Bones writes:

    Lot's of folks made modifications to CSHELL.DLL, each fixing various problems. We usually recommend Mok's final version, which we archive here:

    http://www.chlala.dk/mightandmagic/Mok/cshell.dll

    I've found another version which might or might not suit your system's quirks better. It's on a Polish site. Here's a link (below) to the Google Translate version of the page. The download link is the button at the bottom of the page.

    Please let us know what works for you.



    Related link: Dark Dragon's CSHELL

Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

THREAD NAVIGATION:  
    Where am I?   Original message   Top of thread   Current page 
Displays all thread messages Displays thread map That to which this responds This thread's lead message Your most recent Tavern page

Link not working anymore
09/06/2016, 13:32:43

    MM fan writes:

    Hi, any chance you could uploade the file again? Can't access your link.




Reply to this message   Back to the Tavern  

Back to the Tavern     Back