Thanks Maybeth,
I found out the hard way on some of that but thanks to the nifty character editor ran my group to one of the places where the promotions for crusaders to advance to other classes was offered and after the editor reset class it would offer the promotion. I was thinking about taking advantage of the glitch to get extra ep but did not know Priests and Liches were the way you describe. Will keep that in mind as i decide which extra promotion quests to take without taking the promotions. I appreciate your reply. I read somewhere someone saying they lost about 30 - 40 hours before finding out the difference in how promotions are set up. Ouch!
Your info on Lich promotion will have me think carefully on versus Mage before evening attempting as certainly it is a no way back option though may try the druid for extra ep before the Preist option. Thanks again for the reply. 
Tim
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