but it was only in MM8 i tried it without any help whatsoever the 1st tym round and it took me MONTHS of weeping wailing and greeeef but i finally finished it with a game time of 5 years with every riddle n problem solved and no help whatsoever from any site t'was hellish  however i wood say MM8 is by far the easiest of all the games; in comparison to MM7 its VERY easy and iv never ahd the pleasure of playing MM6 however the skeletal transformer quest had me running in circles for hours and the church of Eep was quite annoyin the 1 where u can't stand on the floor u need the boxes grrr :@ 
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