The last thing I have done was find this site, and downloaded Moc patch, and that did not work. I also have tried downloading the dx6 from microsoft, nada, and also tried googling up things from other sites and tried their ideas, which at this point I can't even recall what they were. Something about an nt somthing or another, and that is about it. Thanks for responding, and if you have any ideas I appreciate your time. sincerely, Dan