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(Off-topic) What is a "CRPG"?
04/20/2020, 12:19:35

    The Elf writes:

    I always thought CRPG was the proper name for a computer RPG (remember the controversy over that, about 20 years ago in this very website?)as opposed to plain RPG, which was specific to the pen-and-pencil game so popular then. (And is still popular, eh Peter2?) But I see games listed in Steam as being CRPG, which seems like it would be ANY RPG listed therein. If "JRPG" means Japanese, does "CRPG" perhaps mean Chinese? Czech? Croatian? I haven't seen the term used in "PC Gamer", to which I subscribe.

    Inquiring minds want to know! Thank you.





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I always thought it meant "computer RPG"...
04/20/2020, 12:47:03

    Ramillies writes:

    I'm also quite sure that it is NOT "Czech RPG" . Not many RPGs have been made in this country...




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Ramillies, you da man!
04/21/2020, 13:05:45

    The Elf writes:

    I'm currently playing a re-mastered retro game, Bard's Tale. My party, named "TELP" (of course,) features you as a ninja/monk, Peter2 as a paladin, Ragwort as the bard, Crazy Bear (who used to grace these pages long ago) and I as conjurers, and Bones and Chlala as magicians.

    P. S. As I sit here and type, I'm wearing a t-shirt decorated with the famed Horloge, lettered "Praha Ceska Republika." (I don't have the ASCII codes for the Czech alphabet on this computer.)





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Hehe, I'm glad to have made it to your party .
04/29/2020, 10:45:00

    Ramillies writes:

    I like your method for coming up with names for characters. I'll try to recall it when I will be starting some RPG for new. (In those cases, the cursor in the blank text field is mockingly blinking while I stare at it dumbly, trying to come up with some name without any success.)

    P. S.: That's interesting... We call it orloj in Czech. It's interesting how many ways there are for mangling the original Latin word horologium .





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(And imagine that I have been banned from this board for using that Latin word...)
04/29/2020, 10:47:45

    Ramillies writes:

    I had to divide it in two with an empty tag to make it through...




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I got banned years ago for using . . .
04/30/2020, 05:52:22

    Peter2 writes:

    . . . the word "specialist" in a post. The computer immediately recognised that if you remove the "spe" from the front of the word and the "t" from the end, you end up with the name of a drug for "treating erectile dysfunction", as the medics might put it! That never even crossed my mind when I typed the word out. Can anyone remember who was it that once described a computer as "An idiot studying to be a moron?"




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Well, I understand it. It's of course not possible to guess what the human at the keyboard meant.
04/30/2020, 09:36:18

    Ramillies writes:

    I got banned for the word "orologi", which I even don't know the meaning of. Even checking with Google turned up only some companies that make watches.

    Who knows what spam contained this word and for what purposes...





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Totally agree. Not all consequences of an action are intended.
04/30/2020, 12:53:05

    Peter2 writes:

    There was a book or an article (I can't remember which) written some years ago about the paradox of unintended consequences. And more often than not, unintended consequences are not ones you particularly like, in my experience.

    It's possibly a bit like anti-serendipity.





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Uh, kind of like sheltering in place while the economy tanks?
04/30/2020, 13:05:32

    The Elf writes:

    I don't think the current situation is exactly a question of right and wrong. I have faith we'll get over this, but I also think it may take a lot of trial and error.




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One could even say that most of the consequences of an action are unintended .
05/01/2020, 10:22:22

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Update on TELP party
04/30/2020, 13:02:21

    The Elf writes:

    We brave TELPers have valiantly withstood the evil Mangar and his equally-evil minions--without a single one of us succumbing! (Of course, it took more than one or two reloads to accomplish this. The worst was the first attempt, when everyone but Chlala died a horrible death! Using that as a learning experience, we swiftly changed tactics.) Eventually, we made it intact.

    Now we're past the first starter dungeon in Bard's Tale 2, The Destiny Knight. The going is much tougher. Maybe I'll go back and finish MM6, also with a TELP party. Onward and upward!





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If you type "CRPG" into Google, the first hit is . . .
04/20/2020, 17:21:02

    Peter2 writes:

    . . . Computer Role-Playing Game, as you said.

    I have been reading and collecting science fiction books since 1964, and the the first time I came across Role-Playing Games was during a holiday in Canada in 1982, when I bought Larry Niven and Steven Barnes' novel "Dream Park". RPG games were mentioned there, but the first computer game that really hooked me was the Crowther-Woods game Colossal Cave Adventure. I also played a little bit of Zork, but I didn't have long-term access to a computer powerful enough to handle the original game until some years later.

    The irst CRPGs I played were MM3, Eye of the Beholder (EOB1), and The Legend of Darkmoon (EOB2). However, I didn't come across any table-top RPG groups until 12 years later, in 1994. I liked those games because we had two superb DMs who ran their games primarily for the players' enjoyment. These contrasted markedly with a third DM, who tended to run his games as an ego trip – he liked to keep very close control over the player characters and what they were and were not allowed to do. The two good DMs designed their own games and their own puzzles and ran their games with a much freer hand, but you really did have to think outside the box if the players' characters were going to avoid serious damage. That is still the case . . .





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Sci-Fi and CRPG's
04/21/2020, 12:58:12

    The Elf writes:

    I first became aware of science fiction in 1950, when I was 13. (Fantasy, actually. I wasn't very keen on "hard-core" science fiction.) Those of you who read "Mad" magazine may be unaware that it began as a second-cousin, if you will, to EC (Entertaining Comics')"Vault of Terror" and "Crypt of Horror." There was also a what we would now call "manga" version of famous science fiction stories. I can't remember what the sci-fi mag was called.

    I came to RPG's rather sideways: we had an Atari 2600 back in 1981. There was a game called "Adventure" (remember the "Jason Robinette" Easter egg?) When we got our first real computer, a Commodore D-128, I found "Phantasie," which I think was by SSI. I bought the game and tried it out, since it seemed to be sort of like "Adventure," what with exploring caves and finding treasures. Back then I didn't know the difference between RPG's and adventure games, but immediately fell in love with that game. I hand-drew and colored maps of the entire land, and played the game until I finally mastered it. Since Papa Elf and I were continually arm-wrestling over who got to play with the computer, we got a C-64 for me. (Papa Elf got the D-128, since it was also used for primitive bookkeeping.) Sometime later I found Might & Magic. Since there were as yet no sequels, it didn't have a number, just "Might & Magic."

    M&M was really rather primitive. To cast spells, you had to type in the correct spell. (Most magic words were a kind of mash-up of Latin and imagination.) I never could get past the final barrier, a force field guarding the treasure that was the point of the game. When M&M2 came out, I was able to beat it. I really felt like queen of the hill then! The rest is history.





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